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One of the curious things about Finnish is that there are essentially two parallel languages. There is the spoken language or puhekieli which follows one set of grammar rules and rules for sentence Body And Soul - Dalbello* - She, and a related but different language called kirjakieli used only in formal written settings such as books, magazines, letters, and in certain formal spoken settings such as in formal speeches, and semi official communication media such as news broadcasts.

The Finn begins life imbibing the rules of spoken language from parents, grandparents and siblings which happens quite naturally and without formal education. He or she will have been exposed through books to the more formal written language through books, though until the age of learning to read aloud and write, this will not have been a generative process.

From the age of about seven right through to late teen, native Finns have to be taught the rules and contructions of the written language.

This takes years. Finnish kids spend hours each Yes - Going For The One in formal lessons from the age of seven through through to their late teens in formal lessons learning how to use the written language. For some reason which is not entirely clear, foreigners learn the language in the reverse sequence.

Formal lessons begin teaching only the formal written language and not the spoken language. This may be because Finns have spent hours and hours learning this language form and decide to put the foreigner through the same torture. A kinder explanation is that both forms are valid and that teachers regard it better to teach the formal language which is more regular and rule bound.

The sad truth is though, that the native speaker regards puhekieli as quite easy to learn because he or she learned it so easily as a child. Foreigners are frequently left to struggle on their own without formal assistance to learn the spoken language, and then only after they have learned the written language. Teaching the formal language first may help the really keen foreigner who is eager to write books in Finnish, write to newspapers, and understand official communications from government and private companies.

But sadly this makes very little sense because he or she is left unable to understand people in everyday situations such as shops, hotels and restaurants, and Finnish movies and t.

When seeking employment, a foreigner who has had instruction in the written language is able to answer questions because Finns of course understand both forms of the language, even though it is odd to hear people speaking in the written language but many foreigner fail before this because they did not even understand the question because it is delivered in spoken language which he or she has not been taught.

It is little wonder that most foreigners only get the lowest paid jobs and many remain unemployed. Spoken Finnish has its own grammar rules which are in some ways similar to, but in other ways different from the forms used in the formal written language.

Spoken language has different rules for verb formation, and there many audible differences in the formation of words. Unless the learner of Finnish gets to hear spoken language or see it written down which is quite rare then he or she will only ever use the formal language and he will actually sound somewhat "odd" to the native speaker and may have great difficulty in Minä Olen Sinä Olet - Various - The Voice - Livenä Vieraissa 2 others who will be speaking a different language to the one that he learned in the language classes or read in his Finnish language teaching texts.

He will be understood, but it is not natural to hear people speaking in the formal language and therefore the foreigner always stands out from the crowd. There is nowadays a great informality in written communication between persons in the form of emails, cell phone texting and real time internet in which use of the everyday puhekieli is acceptable and even quite normal.

However, in formal writing situations, such as customer communication, letter writing, most advertising, magazines, school examinations, puhekieli is not used and only the formal language is used. This section aims to teach the informal spoken language and and how it compares with the formal language.

Verbs are formed slightly differently in puhekieli. The first main differences are that the first person plural forms are generally in the passive form seen in the written language, i. The second main difference is that sounds elide. In other words, parts of words disappear; Minä Olen Sinä Olet - Various - The Voice - Livenä Vieraissa 2 other words, there are elements that are present in the formal language forms that are modified in the spoken language.

Sometimes two separate words form a contraction. This happens to a lesser extent in the formal language but is extremely common in the spoken form. These modified words do not appear in most dictionaries so unless the foreigner sees how this happens he can become totally lost when listening to any conversation as he will have no tools with which to decipher what is being said.

In this section we will see how the formal language and spoken languages differ and you will begin to get an idea of how to understand this everyday language better. Let's look first at the OLLA verb to be. This is somewhat irregular just like its counterpart in the written language. Later we will look at some other verbs. As in the formal language, the verb OLLA in the spoken language is also irregular so it is just necessary to learn the various personal forms. Note the very different verb form accompanying the third person plural i.

The verb form is identical to the passive present tense and not the active present tense as seen in all the other forms. In the spoken language the form se is sometimes used in informal situations to talk about people. Finnish does not regard using se for a person as insulting, as it might in English.

Note the third person plural form uses either of the two possible plural forms ne or he for the pronoun again, ne can refer to people in informal situations but the verb form is the same as the singular form on i. In very formal written language not shownte is sometimes written with an initial capitalization i.

Note the use of the past passive form oltiin which was ollaan in the present tense. Otherwise the shift from past to present tense in puhekieli is much the same as with the shift in kirjakieli. As Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun - Pink Floyd - Ummagumma Vol.

1 the present tense the -vat ending is not used. The only difference between third person Minä Olen Sinä Olet - Various - The Voice - Livenä Vieraissa 2 and plural is in the choice of pronoun, i. The verb part oli is the same in both singular and plural. Note the active participle in pukekieli is ollu ollut in kirjakieli and that the passive shift in the 2nd person plural we form takes the passive particple form oltu.

Note also that whereas in the written language the plural of ollut is oleet, in the formation of plural Decomposition - Various - Pale Destroyer forms the particple stays in the singular ollu. The final t in ollut in the written language elides in the spoken language and become ollu without the t. This happen to all the -nut -nyt -sut -syt -lut -rut particle Watching You Without Me - Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love in the spoken language.

The verb form olla in me ei olla is the negative passive olla and not the dictionary form olla. This olla is formed by taking the passive form ollaan and dropping the final an which in this case just happens to be the same as the dictionary form. This will not always be the case. Take for example the verb ottaa to take. In spoken language me otetaan means we will take or we are taking and in the negative this becomes me ei oteta or we won't take or we are not taking. The rule for forming the passive participle in the present tense depends on the verb type.

Note that Minä Olen Sinä Olet - Various - The Voice - Livenä Vieraissa 2 emme is used in the formal written language the word emme is NOT used in the spoken language. The normal negative form used is me ei.

Note in the table above how in the formal language, the negative verb part is in the plural form olleet when the person is in the plural we, you guys, they but in the spoken language the negative verb part stays in the singular Minä Olen Sinä Olet - Various - The Voice - Livenä Vieraissa 2.

From Wikibooks, open books for an open world. There is 1 pending change awaiting review. Verb formation [ edit ] Verbs are formed slightly differently in puhekieli. Puhekieli Kirjakieli English comments, special You Dont Know - Berlin - Count Three & Pray and highlighted differences and optional text or spoken forms Let's look first at the OLLA verb to be.

Te And now the regular past tense imperfect. This happen to all the -nut -nyt -sut -syt -lut -rut particle endings in the spoken language 2. Category : Book:Suomen kieli ulkomaalaisille. Namespaces Book Discussion. Views Read Latest draft Edit View history. Policies and guidelines Contact us. In other languages Add links. This page was last edited on 1 Julyat By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.


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